r/CrazyFuckingVideos Sep 22 '22 Silver 1 Wholesome 3

VPD (Vancouver Police Deartment) hits pedestrian on E Hastings, HARD. Area is 30kmph zone, and the center of homelessness and addiction. Insane/Crazy NSFW

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u/Kirikoza Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

EDIT: the person I was responding to clarified what they meant and edited the comment. No hate, all love ♥️ I'll leave my original comment for context.

What a stupid statement. Of course it matters if it's on purpose or not! We have different degrees of murder and manslaughter specifically because it matters if it's on purpose or not.

I agree he should be charged the same as a civilian, and it matters in civilian cases too.

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u/Decafstab Sep 22 '22

Yeah people just acting vindicated because it’s a cop. Imagine that was you, and your car was to high up to immediately notice anything, because some idiot was HUNCHED down in the middle of the road at night, and you hit them just the same. You’d expect the law to be kind to you too. Double standard fuck heads on Reddit.

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u/IdolCowboy Sep 22 '22

Video can be deceptive on speeds and distance, and we don't know the speed limit of that street, could be 40 or 45. The cop did stop on a dime, so how fast was he really going? Doesn't look excessive to me.

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u/whoweoncewere Sep 22 '22

30kmph speed limit on the street apparently. Which is slow af.

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u/JunJunSad Sep 22 '22

Holy fuck Im definitely ACAB but this fucking guy is hunched over at night in dark clothes… IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING ROAD. How from the video can you even say the cop was speeding? Reddit hivemind going craZy.

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u/tammy-hell Sep 22 '22

i think people who commit vehicular manslaughter should probably have at least some punishment more than "literal nothing"

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u/Spatetata Sep 22 '22

manslaughter

You’ve literally said it yourself.

We have differentiations between degrees of murder (intentional) and manslaughter (unintentional) specifically for that.

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u/Decafstab Sep 22 '22

I agree he should be punished in some fashion, but cops are the exact same as me and you, and nothing in this situation makes it any different than if he was a cop or not. If this was a shooting, an arrest. Sure hold him to a higher standard, but this is an every day thing everyone does, and that’s simply driving.

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u/EngagedInConvexation Sep 22 '22

Driving is something the fuzz enforces, too...

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u/Decafstab Sep 22 '22

I understand that, but he isn’t PERFORMING his duties right now. Seriously this is just a tragic accident (it looks like it, who knows maybe that cop was driving distracted) and it just so happens to be a cop. Nothing about this situation is great, but to say BECAUSE he is a cop, it makes it so he should get in trouble more than anyone else is fucking stupid.

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u/EngagedInConvexation Sep 22 '22

Nothing against you, but I think that way of thinking is bullshit.

Cops aren't, "just like us" when they are working, and I certainly consider driving a city owned vehicle to be "working," no matter the instance.

They can be "just like us" when they're at home and their mistakes aren't remedied by our tax dollars and half the city's budget. They should be held to a higher standard while performing their duties but I'd settle for the same standards if that meant it would reduce their costly (in so many ways) whoopsies.

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u/tammy-hell Sep 22 '22

people who are stupid drivers who hit people shouldn't be allowed to be police

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u/Kirikoza Sep 22 '22

Ridiculous sentence. Accidents happen all the time to everyone no matter how exceptional they are, there isn't a way to determine if the cop you're going to hire might accidentally run into someone standing in the middle of the road at night.

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u/tammy-hell Sep 22 '22

if you literally, physically end another human being's life through your actions, it's not a "woopsie, accidents happen" moment. you shouldn't be allowed to be in a situation where it can happen again

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u/Kirikoza Sep 22 '22

I refer to my first comment. We make distinctions because the severity of taking a life on purpose outweighs it happening on accident. You can't determine a just punishment if you're not willing to ask if it was premeditated or not.

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u/tammy-hell Sep 22 '22

maybe society should be less focused around cars and more about keeping human beings alive, then, since cars seem to kill an awful lot of them

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u/Kirikoza Sep 22 '22

I mean, no one is gonna disagree with you there bud. But that has nothing to do with how we respond to this particular situation.

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u/Decafstab Sep 22 '22

Do you know how many dumb fuck drivers still have a license? Yeah maybe this guy shouldn’t be a cop, I’m not arguing that. Jeeesh.

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u/tammy-hell Sep 22 '22

those people should also not have licenses

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u/CantHideFromGoblins Sep 22 '22

I think part of the reason people are vindictive towards a cop is because they are driving all the time as part of their job. It’s like if a store clerk ran someone over vs a bus driver, people are going to bring the driver’s job into it and claim they should’ve been better

Like a bus driver expected to yield to civilians you’d hopefully expect a cop to not drive like he’s on his own private driveway while in the middle of an urban center

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u/bulging_cucumber Sep 22 '22

If it was him he'd get prosecuted for speeding and reckless driving and that'd be fair. These cops are not going to see any real consequences.

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u/YourCummyBear Sep 22 '22

People don’t go to jail for reckless driving or speeding while going 10-15 over. They get fined unless they have a serious criminal history.

If someone was drag racing it’d be a different story.

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u/bulging_cucumber Sep 22 '22

People absolutely should go to jail for speeding and not looking at the road and this willful gross negligence resulting in severe injury or death. Of course, in general killing people with a car (intentionally or not) is considered okay by the police and justice, compared to killing someone with any other instrument (intentionally or not), but it shouldn't be.

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u/YourCummyBear Sep 22 '22

There are thousands of car accidents every day, usually from one party not paying attention. People die everyday from these accidents.

You’re saying even if both parties are at fault, the driver should still go to prison, correct?

I’m a defense attorney currently, former prosecutor. The most that would typically happen are fines and tickets, then civil court. Unless there’s proof of extreme gross negligence. Like drag racing, fleeing from police, suspended license, etc.

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u/bulging_cucumber Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

You’re saying even if both parties are at fault, the driver should still go to prison, correct?

No. I'm saying that car drivers need to be prosecuted appropriately for their crimes, and of course every situation is different. In this video we see a cop (aggravating circumstance, or should be) who is speeding (aggravating circumstance, or should be) and not paying attention (aggravating circumstance, or should be) in an area that is known to have a lot of junkies, which a cop would obviously be fully aware of (aggravating circumstance, or should be). That's a lot of "mistakes" for somebody to make and the reason they're making so many "mistakes" is likely that they know they won't be held accountable. Of course we don't know the full story, but from the video it looks really quite bad, and we all know that nothing is going to be done and that cop will continue to be a danger for the general public, be it junkies or kids or whatnot.

The most that would typically happen are fines and tickets, then civil court.

I'm aware of that. People routinely kill or severely injure people on the road and get a slap on the wrist despite being fully at fault. It's happened to people I know. Being in a car is effectively treated as an extenuating circumstance, when it shouldn't be.

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u/Adam_is_Nutz Sep 22 '22

I didn't say what he should be charged with, just that he shouldn't be treated differently cuz he's a cop.

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u/Kirikoza Sep 22 '22

You said "it doesn't really matter if it's on purpose or not". If you didn't mean that then we agree 100%, he should be charged the same as a civilian. It's not like he was actively stopping a crime, seems like he was just patrolling.

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u/Adam_is_Nutz Sep 22 '22

Yeah I edited my original comment. I chose poor wording.

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u/Kirikoza Sep 22 '22

Gotcha, I added a note to mine, thanks for clarifying homie

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

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u/Kirikoza Sep 22 '22

That was exactly my point. How did you miss that? If it was intentional, it would be worse. It's a crime regardless, and the severity of the punishment is determined after we determine if it was on purpose or not.

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