r/CrazyFuckingVideos Sep 22 '22 Silver 1 Wholesome 3

VPD (Vancouver Police Deartment) hits pedestrian on E Hastings, HARD. Area is 30kmph zone, and the center of homelessness and addiction. Insane/Crazy NSFW

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u/evade26 Sep 22 '22

I lived a few blocks from there for a few years so I have some experience with the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver.

The city spends around 360 million per year supporting different housing groups, health care facilities (safe injection sites etc) and policing in the area as well as clean up in that area when it isn't dangerous enough. Over 260 different organizations get funding to support the few blocks.

This does not include policing costs and medical costs to the healthcare system from Paramedics coming to help with drug use, hospital care for those who need it etc.

This number comes from a 2016 report and that number is for sure higher since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Eastside#Costs

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u/RainbowWaffles135 Sep 22 '22

Okay that makes a lot more sense then. It’s pretty terrible that much money is being spent daily and clearly not putting a dent in the problem

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u/evade26 Sep 22 '22

yeah just like all modern slums in cities like the east side of Vancouver, in Seattle, Portland, LA etc there are no great solutions that people can rally behind. There is a huge problem with mental health and addiction but the people who need that care need to A) Want help and seek it out and B) have the infrastructure provided to them to access that care (therapists, detox facilities etc). In the 80s the in patient care facility in BC Riverview Hospital was closed because of rampant abuse by staff against patients and the community care was supposed to be better funded and accessible to take over that role but that never came to fruition. Right now you have people who are known "frequent flyers" who will OD several times in a day and the paramedics and hospitals have no method of helping them beyond narcan/naloxone and then moving on, "Treat them and Street them" is a common phrase.

Personally I think a better regulated, managed "forced" mental health care and addiction facility needs to be established to help people detox, get clean, provide therapy and counciling both mental and physical to help people address their issues be them physical pain or mental pain and then return to life infrastructure be provided to them through assisted housing etc.

Right now we do provide assisted housing for people if they want to take advantage of it but we aren't getting them clean first so regularly the buildings get destroyed through people ripping copper from the walls to sell drugs, places are burning down because of accidental fires due to drug use and they remain a sore spot of violence, abuse and drug trade/use.

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u/ReggieEvansTheKing Sep 22 '22

The big issue is that law forbids us from forcing people to get treatment against their free will. It is a stupid law though, because addiction and mental illness are the very essence of the loss of free will. These people need to be either treated or cured for their illnesses prior to being given the opportunity to make their own choices. If they aren’t forced into this type of recovery, then their illnesses will make decisions for them. Any parent would rather have their heroin addict child forced to be in a facility giving them an objectively better quality of life than their child be out on the streets being abused and in pain.

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u/evade26 Sep 22 '22

Oh for sure. Laws need to be changed to enable this care and the facilities that do that need to be held to the highest standard so 50 years later they don’t get shut down due to public outrage.