r/leagueoflegends Sep 15 '22 Silver 1

We’re the Books team at Riot Games - AUA about RUINATION and League lore!

Hey everyone! We’re the Books team at Riot Games, here to talk about the first-ever League of Legends novel, RUINATION, which is out in bookstores now. Here today are:

Anthony Reynolds (u/Primordial_Ant), author of RUINATION

Will Camacho (u/Tahmhiddleston), head of the Riot Books team

Siege Gary (u/SiegeGary), Principal Creative Advisor and editor on RUINATION

Michelle Mauk (u/RiotMMauk), Art Director for RUINATION

Steph Lippitt (u/StephRuination), Brand Manager and marketing lead on RUINATION

Ask us anything about the story (we will tag any spoilers), the process of making the book, the incredible art, the full-cast audiobook production, or anything about League lore!

We’re posting this a bit early so people have time to submit questions - we’ll be responding to posts from 5 pm - 7 pm PST.

You can buy your copy of RUINATION at any of the awesome retailers listed here or at a local bookstore near you!

EDIT: We're wrapping up here, folks! Thanks for spending some time with us.

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u/summerswirl Sep 15 '22

Hi guys! I was just wondering what the age difference between Kalista and Viego is! I love how much of a big sis Kalista is! <3

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

About three years... though in some ways, Kalista is much older than those three years difference!

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u/summerswirl Sep 16 '22

Yeaahhhh, poor Kal haha! Thanks for the reply! <3

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u/DmDunk Sep 15 '22

Was the Dusk Monk who spoke to Viego while observed Isoldes corpse who spoke of Gwen our dearly beloved Yorick?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

That indeed was my intention, yep. :)

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u/Jocelotknee Sep 28 '22

Hi Anthony I know it's been a while since you answered this question but THANK YOU so much for including Yorick in this novel. I love how he was able to 'break through' to Viego and help him begin to accept Isolde's passing. It was a small but really touching moment, I reread it so many times since it was very touching. Yorick is my favorite champ since his VGU in 2017 and it was just so fulfilling to see him show up in Ruination.

It doesn't mean much but you really made my day lol.

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 15 '22

You can tell that you all really love these characters. Who was your favorite character to really dig into? Was it different from who you expected? Was there a character you wanted to include but couldnt?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Hmm favorites? That's hard. Vennix and Jenda'kaya were really fun to write, and I quite enjoyed Hecarim as well, which I wasn't necessarily expecting. There was a kind of macabre enjoyment writing Erlok Grael too...

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Oh, a character I would have liked to include? Probably Vlad, tbh, but I think that would only have really worked with a larger book/multiple books, to do him justice. We needed to be pretty focused on the core story - there was quite a lot to cover within the page count/word limit.

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u/Aquario_Wolf Sep 16 '22

Is there a particular reason for a maximum page count/word limit?

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 16 '22

I imagine theres some marketing reason behind it if nothing else. People are probably less likely to pick up a new book on a whim if its a thicc as a college textbook.

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u/Aquario_Wolf Sep 16 '22

That's fair enough. I just remember reading Christopher Paolini's books, before and after he visited my small school years ago for his worldwide? I think Inheritance tour. The fourth book was like, 1000 pages long. Never really considered max length so much as minimum, for books.

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u/kirocuto Sep 16 '22

There's the 4th book in the series, 8 imagine you get more leeway once you have 3 books to show that people are invested in the story.

Also for the page count thing, different printings can have different page counts. Depends on the paper size, font, margins etc

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

I didn't write the book of course, but I'll still answer the first question from my fandom perspective.

I was really excited about seeing our champs in human form. Both from a story perspective and from an art perspective. Especially Kalista and Hecarim since we'd already had some exploration of Viego in different mediums.

Hecarim was way more charming and strategic than I imagined. That was fun.

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

From a fan perspective, when I read the book, while I knew Kalista, I didn't expect to love her so much. Having a deeper dive into her story, and her being so strong and brave was awesome.

Also ditto on how Hecarim in art came out. Sometimes you never know how a studio will interpret the brief, but when we got Hecarim's art in, I was like...HOLY COW. Menacing but handsome.

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 16 '22

Hecarim being really hot was something that caught me way off guard. Even in just the first interaction with him and Kalista I was right with Kalista in that every other thought was "seriously tho, why is he hot".

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u/Riot_Bioluminescence Sep 15 '22

Hiya folks - thanks for the book! <3

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Thank you, for all your maps, your worldbuilding, your help, your feedback etc. :)

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

<3 Thanks for the map!

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u/youarecutexd Sep 16 '22

I recognize this name. Are you the Rioter who would always pop up on the boards whenever anyone mentioned maps?

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u/Riot_Bioluminescence Sep 16 '22

That's exactly who I am, and I helped on the maps in the RUINATION novel too :D

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u/youarecutexd Sep 16 '22

Nice, good to see you're still doing it. Sometimes I miss those little corners of the boards most people didn't go to. There were some nice little places.

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u/Riot_Bioluminescence Sep 16 '22

I lurk on the Lore of Runeterra discord every so often, but I also miss the Boards sometimes.

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u/Particular_Air_4535 Sep 15 '22

Hi! I finished reading Ruination recently and I deeply enjoyed it. How did you go about deciding which characters would be featured in the book’s art? And was there reasons for why each person was depicted the way they were (by this, I mean poses)?

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22

Yay! I'm so glad you enjoyed it.

We knew from the beginning that we wanted to include artwork of the champions and any break-out characters in the novel. We chose a style that placed the characters front and center, with the background less pronounced. From there, we chose an iconic pose that showcased the essence of each character:

Viego is willing to destroy the world to get what he wants.

Kalista is a fierce avatar of protection.

Ryze is a young mage learning to control his runic magic.

Thresh is a voracious and predatory hoarder of secret knowledge.

Hecarim is a sinister knight who charges his foes.

Soraka is a compassionate seer of the stars.

Jenda'kaya is the dedicated inventor of relic weapons.

Vennix is a brash sea captain and soldier.

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u/4716202 Pyosik is pretty good imo Sep 15 '22

"Books Team" seems to imply there's a plan for continuing future releases. Is there anything you can talk about in that capacity or is that all just hush hush for now

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

We do have continued interest in book publishing. I'm certainly counting on more in the future. That said, we're doing some work at the moment to find the right stories and times to make those stories before we officially commit to anything.

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 16 '22

If you're taking suggestions: The Fall of Icathia, Xerath and Azir's Ascension and the Darkin wars, and the Taming of A-Sol would be be really cool to read about.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Your suggestions are noted. :D I do think historical novels like you're mentioning would have lots of value.

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 16 '22

For a more "out there" idea...and hear me out... Professor Syndra's Giant Floating Castle for Gifted Youngsters. I need Syndra to go around and adopt Annie, Rell, Zeri and any other magically powerful kids/young adults so that she can help them realize their full potential.

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u/SkeletonJakk Dawn of the KLED | AD kled is back in toplane! Sep 16 '22

Pantheon Vs. Aatrox would be awesome too.

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u/Irarius Sep 16 '22

if we ever get more viego i hope a full book version of how viego escaped illaois sealing and an actually canon version of SoL that has actual details would be extremely good

that said... id take a darkin / shuriman book or 5

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u/Aquario_Wolf Sep 16 '22

To add to this, Serylda, Lissandra and Avarosa. Plenty of potential there, even if we know how it ends up, we know so little.

Sejuani, especially in her younger years, but also current time.

Shyvana, The Dragonguard & Jarvan

Caitlyn murder mystery.

There's so much possibility, I can't wait for more books.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Yes, yes, yes

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u/HandsomeTaco Sep 16 '22

I would for sure be a proponent of continuing the fallen civilization theme and heading to Shurima, to flesh out Azir and Xerath's friendship, Nasus' growing concerns about his fellow Ascended and his own brother, and even a peek at Aatrox's lost glory.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

I do think there's an angle here.

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u/Mazrim_reddit ADCs are the support's damage item Sep 15 '22

once you have a book, is the lore there in stone now?

In general how has it been working with league lore when things can be so inconsistent and changing. Have you googled lore then found wait no riot have changed than 3 times since then so the book needs a rewrite here.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

The book is canon, yes. That's not necessarily saying nothing in it will ever, ever, ever change if it needs to, but the intention is that this is canon, and pretty locked in.

As for your other question - I mean, I've worked in several big shared IPs. Things sometimes shift/change, and it happens. More often the IP just continues to grow and deepen. It's just part of the deal, really. I generally find that pretty fun and exciting - new things to discover, explore, and write about!

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u/Mazrim_reddit ADCs are the support's damage item Sep 16 '22

I just find even as someone who -does- like the lore and traditional fantasy writing I still barely can keep up with which champions are where and which retcon is now canon. Lore being split into legends of runeterra a lot doesn't help things.

Take for example Soraka, apparently she is mentioned in this book and part of a new demi race now but last I read about her she was a unique aspect. She was also not connected in any way to the "main" ruination storyline, so any connection to viego in the past is not going to be strong enough for her to care about the ruination?

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u/LucasVerBeek Sep 16 '22

She looks like the Ottrani Vastaya, but she isn’t one.

She’s still a Celestial, it just appears that she appeared to them first and adopted her form after them.

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u/HandsomeTaco Sep 16 '22

she is mentioned in this book and part of a new demi race now

She is not. She is just mentioned to be a very exotic being and to have inspired multiple tales.

about her she was a unique aspect

She is a Celestial, but not an Aspect.

I'll say two things:

  • Riot absolutely does retcon things a lot, sometimes with proper, and sometimes with less than proper clarity (even this book contradicts Kalista's bio in some ways for example, and the waters being a secret is quite strange in the context of Yorick's lore and the Vesani in RK);

  • The community still wildly exaggerates how much stuff actually gets retconned.

I can confirm the book does not in any way contradict anything we already knew from previous canon Soraka depictions.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

As for your other question - I mean, I've worked in several big shared IPs. Things sometimes shift/change, and it happens. More often the IP just continues to grow and deepen. It's just part of the deal, really. I generally find that pretty fun and exciting - new things to discover, explore, and write about!

+1 to Primordial_Ant's answer. I'll add that we worked hard across teams to make sure that what we communicated in this book was something that made sense and was bought into across Riot. This should help us future proof the content here quite a bit.

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u/DmDunk Sep 15 '22

Can we expect more lore about those juicy Buhru god's? I love the concept of a volcano island crab!

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Oooh, I hope so. It was super fun coming up with them. All bow down before our volcano island crab god lord!

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u/GammaRhoKT Sep 16 '22

Somehow, I feel like Ghostcrawler would love to explore this deity in the MMO.

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u/Firebird117 starrrrs Sep 16 '22

I just finished the audiobook today. I hadn’t looked to deep into it so I was beyond surprised to hear the dialogue voiced by the same VA as the champions. I don’t have any questions just wanted to state how well the story was crafted and the great execution of the audiobook. Thoroughly enjoyable throughout.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

It's cool huh! I was blown away when I first heard this was how we were thinking of doing this audio book. I feel very lucky!

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u/VoidMiasma Sep 16 '22

Whaaat?! I have the physical book, but the audiobook being voiced by the VA's of the champions is insane! Might buy the audiobook and reread/listen just for that!

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u/Firebird117 starrrrs Sep 16 '22

Yeah it really surprised me and man oh man, it fuckin delivers. It’s seriously a really good job. I hope it gets the popularity it deserves

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u/Omnilatent Sep 16 '22

Holy shit where did you get the audiobook? I'm usually not into audio books but that sounds sick

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u/Firebird117 starrrrs Sep 16 '22

Audible app for me. Anywhere Hachet Book Group sells audiobooks should have it though.

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u/Cory_Wade Sep 16 '22

Where can you get the audio book, every time I check audible it says soon

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u/Firebird117 starrrrs Sep 16 '22

I got it on audible. Are you in NA? It might have different release info in other regions. It released on Sept 13th

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u/vogone Sep 16 '22

Oh wow they really should habe marketed this fact for the audio books more! I would have never bought the audio book if I didn’t read this comment lol

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Glad you enjoyed it! It took a lot to make it happen. Lots of kudos to Hachette’s audio team. They drove on so much with some key players from Riot pitching in.

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u/Joe_Spazz Sep 16 '22

This just made me go audio book instead of physical. Thank you.

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u/daavi94 Sep 15 '22

Hello, love your work and the book was great, are you going to keep working on the shadow island characters or are you looking to others themes, and what other region or lore event would you like to work on?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

It's probably a bit of a cop-out of an answer, but I tend to really get into whatever region/event/champs I'm currently focused on. Like, find the things there that I really resonate with within that space, etc. (But I do really love Noxus. And the Freljord. And Demacia. And...)

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u/DiiJordan Sep 15 '22

How long has this story been in the making? I know these champions all received many bio updates in the time I've played.

I'm just as interested in the process of the novel as I am for the baseline lore.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Working on Kalista was one of the first things I did when I joined Riot back in 2014, so the basic story of the fall of the Blessed Isles and Kalista's role in it was developed then. In terms of the actual book, I was writing the first draft two years ago.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Adding on in addition to Primordial_Ant, the team has been working on the project for 3ish years now. It took some time to build our strategy, find our opportunity space and then to green light the project. Once we got that in place Anthony got started on the work. It’s a very long process.

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u/mercenarykat Sep 15 '22

Hey there! Thank you again for getting me a review copy <3

I'd love to know what the writing process was like for this novel! How long it was in the works, whether things like the Sentinels event, Gwen's release, etc all played a role in it, since you're working with a living, breathing IP that has a bunch of other narrative/writing going on while you're hard at work bringing this book to life. It's so different from writing your "own" novel, so I'm interested in all of those details!

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

No worries!

I was writing the first draft of this exactly two years ago, and was working on the initial outline something like 6ish months before that. First draft took around 4 1/2 months, if I recall correctly.

The other parts of the business working on things like Viego, Gwen, the Ruined King game, etc, all definitely factored into it. Had LOTS of meetings haha. It can be tricky sometimes coordinating all this stuff, but it can also be a lot of fun, and stop it feeling like you are working in complete isolation. E.g. one of LoL's writers, Jared, was working on Viego and he had lots of cool ideas around what Camavor was like, so it was fun brainstorming with him about all that stuff, and making sure Viego's depiction lined up with how he appeared elsewhere etc.

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u/Spideraxe30 Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 15 '22

Hey guys thanks for doing the AMA, got a couple questions.

For /u/primordial_ant I was curious about the Black Arrow of Astora, what made it so deadly that it required Mikael’s to heal Camor

For /u/tahmhiddleston does Riot expect a lot of ROI for books? Since I’d love more printed media to see and hope it does well

For /u/RiotMMauk can you share how you guys went about designing the human versions of Hecarim and Kalista? Since Kalista looks really cool and I really like that she’s quite tan

And as a general question, how long ago was the book planned, since I know these things take time. Did you guys have to coordinate with folks like the Riot Forge and League teams since they were working on Viego stuff as well

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Hey Spideraxe. Re: the Black Arrow... I did write up a little more of the background/myth around that, but we ended up cutting it, as the book didn't really need it. Could be something to explore down the track.

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u/Spideraxe30 Sep 16 '22

I hope we do it see down the line, could you also share if Viego’s deceased siblings from his father’s second wide were his brothers as well or was there a sister.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

t a lot of ROI for books? Since I’d love more printed media to see and hope it does well

Hey Spideraxe. Good to hear from you :). We know books publishing won't be the main source of revenue for Riot anytime soon... or ever... Lol. I definitely expect (and want) publishing to be a positive ROI business for us, but it has never been our primary driver for entering the space. There are lots of other benefits that we value here outside of that. I think publishing is REALLY important for a meaningful part of our fanbase, so in that sense, resonance and fandom around these type of projects are really high up there when evaluating success.

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

Helloooo! So the human versions of Kalista and Hecarim- /u/SiegeGary actually helped drive directionally from a creative brief perspective and gave me an idea of how she envisioned them. I would just ask clarifying questions about things like armor, skin tone, etc to make sure what I was asking from the studio would be reflected correctly. The nice thing with Kalista is we had actually on the IP/S team drawn a small pencil version of what we felt her face would look like when she was alive, and her armor would be reflected like a mirror version of it and tie to Viego's. We were on a VERY tight timeline-so we had to ensure we had very clear ideas of what the champions were looking like before having the studio dive into their depictions so that what we had would be consistent with Siege's picture that she had, and we could make sure they were accurate to it! ^^

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u/Spideraxe30 Sep 16 '22

Awesome, Kudos knocked it out of the park with the illustrations. Huge shout out to mujumonster for working with that team

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

They are amazing, Shawn-the AD over on Kudos, has been WONDERFUL, and I can't say enough great things about him.

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u/2th Sep 15 '22

I bought the book and have not read it yet (I have a backlog). What is your favorite page in the book? Just give us a number though. No content. No spoilers. Just what page your favorite thing in the book is on.

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22

315

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 16 '22

worth

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u/Sresla WOLF DEMANDS YOU KISS Sep 15 '22

Kudos on the full cast audio book. That's pretty unusual, at least in my experience for most novels, and turns it into a full-blown audio drama.

As someone who both reads and listens to audio books (I drive for a living) I would /love/ to see Riot expand into audio dramas (like Big Finish. I'm sure there are other places that do them as series but they're the first company that comes to mind), involving the talented champion voice actors. Even just having them read their own champion stories and throwing it up on Amazon/Apple Music/etc for .99 would be worth a buy.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Fully agree! I love well-done audios, I think they can add so much to the story. Would definitely love to see more!

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

<3 I'm glad you're enjoying it. It was a bit of a journey to make it happen, so it's rewarding to know that y'all are finding enjoyment in it. I'll be keeping an eye on how different parts of the product perform and that could open up new ideas for things like audio dramas. Keep letting us know what you love.

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u/HippieWitchyWoods Sep 16 '22

Hi! My question is:

Why Ruination for Riot’s first foray into novels?

Bonus: If you could pick any other storyline/area of Runeterra to dig into for the next novel, what would it be and why?

Great work 👏

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

There were a few reasons. It started from wanting to make a book that was relevant to a larger player experience. At the time it was Sentinels of Light. We intended it to come out around then, but it didn't work out.

From there we asked: Is there a meaningful story we can tell for our lore in this space?

The history of the blessed isles/shadow isles stood out as an open canvas that hadn't really been explored to it's full potential. It also was an important origin for multiple champions and for the shadow isles and had lots of hooks into future stories like runes, relic weapons, sentinels of light...

The combination of these things led us to Ruination.

My personal, unsanctioned, unofficial feels on a next story... either Rune Wars or a character piece on Ahri. Ahri's story has so much potential to explore and it'd feel pretty different than Ruination. The Rune Wars help shape modern day Runeterra and could be a good launch pad into all future stories. And it'd be EPIC.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Oh and an Irelia trilogy about the Noxus invasion written by R.F. Kuang.

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u/Nick3570 Sep 16 '22

A series about the Noxus invasion of Ionia would be so sick. And hopefully the climax will just be a play by play re-enactment of the showmatch that saved Ionia from being overtaken and gave us the Ionian Boots of Lucidity

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u/DraconicEngineer Charmed, I'm sure Sep 16 '22

From someone with completely no bias whatsoever: I REALLY hope you get to bring that character piece to life, especially with the other short stories that are out there as great reference points. Oh, and the Rune Wars would be really cool to explore too. Those two things totally don't involve two of my faves. Not at all.

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u/ameli0n Sep 16 '22

what was grael's childhood like? did something traumatic happen to him that caused him to become a violent sadist or has he just always been like this?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

I don't think there was any one thing that turned him into a villain. Sure, I think there were some things that probably happened to him that were a bit rough and probably unfair... but I think he was probably just a pretty bad person at heart from the get-go.

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 16 '22

With Mikael's making an appearance in the book, what other items from league were you excited to use (Besides the Blade of the Ruined King, obviously)? Which ones did you want to use but couldnt?

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u/SlowbroJJ Sep 16 '22

I just wanted to say thank you! As someone who reads all the lore and loves seeing the world of Runeterra flushed out this book means the world to me. You have already answered a few of my questions so I just wanted to say thanks!

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

THANK YOU

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u/ThyPrasiolite What the fuck did they do to my Popper Sep 15 '22

can any of yall do a backflip?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

I think I would break if I tried to do that now.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Back hand spring? Haven't tried in a few years.

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u/spike31875 Sep 16 '22

I've heard such good things about Ruination. Will someone who isn't familiar with League of Legends enjoy the book and audiobook?

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u/StephRuination Sep 16 '22

Yes! Ruination is very much a good fantasy book first, League of Legends novel second. You may miss a few champion easter eggs but it won't detract from the story at all.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

That's the aim! I wrote it trying make it so that it would appeal to someone with no League knowledge, while also giving cool tidbits and easter eggs for deep lore nerds (like me).

My mum is currently reading it and she is about as far away from having any understanding of League as anyone haha.

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u/Zyph7007 Sep 16 '22

I would say if you're interested in fantasy novels then this will definitely be a must read. It's written in a way that should allow existing fans and newcomers alike to understand what's going on.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

I'd answer yes, but I think it means more when folks like Zyph7007 say it. <3

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u/arddhu Sep 15 '22

First, thank you all for this amazing book and piece of history in Runeterra, I already read it twice, the first in less than one day and the second a little bit slower to re-savour every moment. Said that, here I shot my questions! Warning, they all can have several spoilers, so they were all hidden to prevent any spoiling.

I know that to wait for answers for all that questions is just too much, but I had to put it all on it (actually those are the 10 I selected from a very big list)

>! 1. Is said that Sanctity is a blade not from this world, pretty much like the relic stones that are somehow physical manifestation of spiritual energy/magic. Do we have any clue on who or what crafted it? On the Sword, any chance to have any relation to Mordekaiser?!<

>! 2. When Ryze sees the Rune in the wheel, the description is of something that pulses power. I assumed it as a Global Rune (or a fragment of it) is that presumption real or quite out from the truth? !<

>! 3. When the Helians are attacked, they show almost no resistance other than their "army". If they are so versed in arcane ways, why not fight back using magic? Or they were so peaceful that their magic was more a phylosofical thing or even some parlour tricks? !<

>! 4. We learn that the Buhru have several gods, not only Nagakabouros, any chance to have any name for it. Do their "cults" survive through ages till "present days"? !<

>! 5. Are the Razorscales a "Marai" Tribe with different thoughts and orgazination or are they a different Vastayan tribe?!<

>! 6. When the magic of the Sword and the magic of the Rune start to act on Viego he enter on this loop of build and rebuild, then the boom happens. Do the Sword and the Rune are still there or they were destroyed in the proccess (or they mixed in the magic that created the Black Mist?) !<

>! 7. We see that the Sentinels born in Helia and were scattered around Runeterra after Ruination. What do the Sentinels fight with before they were stated as obsolete for the Helians? !<

>! 8. There was no mention to Kathkan in the book, can we assume that in that time it was a small region or country still not developed? !<

>! 9. Do the Lore in the book is the canon now, about how the Ruination happens and can we expect any repercussion on a retcon in the Sentinels of Light "event" lore? !<

>! 10. Was Camavor in the past somehow with close relations with any nation in the Valoran/Shurima continents? Like Icathia, since they even have some Zilean reports? !<

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Arddhu with the deep lore questions! Spoiler answers below:

  1. I DO have ideas, but without those ideas appearing in the book (or another product), I'll keep them under wraps. It's essentially my own headcanon until it becomes 'real' in a product, and hey, someone else at Riot might have a cooler idea in the meantime that they want to explore in their own product. It's can be useful not to define everything too early.
  2. The intention is yep, that was a World Rune, though Ryze (at this point) wouldn't really know exactly what that was or what it meant.
  3. I think they had fallen into complacency really, believing the mists would keep them safe, and the masters running the show were possibly too busy with their own politicking and self-absorption to give it the attention it needed. Not many warrior-types there.
  4. I hope there are cults of these other gods, I think that would be super fun to explore.
  5. Related, I'd say, but different. Inspiration came from LoR cards and art.
  6. TBD, slightly unknown.
  7. I imagined their own magic, and possibly the stones themselves, but before they were fashioned into more traditional weapons.
  8. Nilkah and Kathkan were developed after the book was written, so I wasn't aware of their existence yet!
  9. The book is canon yep. I don't think the book actually impacts or forces a retcon on the sentinels though, just gives a little more insight into their original creation 1000 years ago.
  10. Possibly/probably!

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u/chaka62 Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

heads up my guy, all your spoilers ain't working lmao

Edit: Only on Old Reddit

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u/arddhu Sep 16 '22

Actually... they are. Check on two browsers even unlogged.

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u/chaka62 Sep 16 '22

Huh, seems like it's only whack on old reddit

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u/Papuchochoe Sep 16 '22

Hello! I loved the book a lot!

My biggest question, I wanted to ask for a while is; was it intended to so heavily hint that Viego may have BPD? His behavior checks pretty much all the boxes, and people who have it, just feel like he's so BPD-coded too, I was wondering if it was the intention or just something accidental? Is it okay to assume he has BPD?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 18 '22

Hey there,

I can't speak for the League champ team, who did the heavy lifting on developing Viego's personality, so I'm genuinely unsure. From my side of things, I didn't consciously say "yeah, this guy has BPD" - but did pinpoint many of the typically associated behaviours and traits as things I wanted to portray in my depiction of him in the book.

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 15 '22

Who are all of your favorite champions and how badly did you want to include them in the story (if they weren't already)

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Swain, Leblanc, Kennen, Sylas, Jhin, Irelia... I'm still sad none of them made it into the final edit.

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

Yordles. I love Yordles. Heimerdinger and Teemo most especially. LOL what if Teemo just jumped out of a bush in the Ruination novel-that would have been hilarious. (In my mind at least).

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 16 '22

Vex showing up to swoon over Viego and just vibe with the Ruination would probably be a hard tone shift but it would be hilarious.

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u/LordRedStone_Nr1 Lore Sep 16 '22

Debating with u/HandsomeTaco right now: What happened to the royal physician Ramon?

He only appears in chapter 5, where he sees the warning signs early and tries to get away from the royal family. I hope he took the next ship to Valoran, Taco says Viego caught him and executed him while Kalista was away. Please tell me he got a happy ending.

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22

We know that he *tries* to leave--and I certainly hope he succeeded! We'll have to see if any future storytelling picks up where the novel leaves off.

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u/CrowTea Sink 'em all! Sep 16 '22

Love your book, hoping to see more on the future!

I have two questions about Jenda'Kaya and Vennix:

Is Jenda'Kaya related to some Sentinel we know? (Like an ancestor)
Can you shared if Vennix is still alive nowadays?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Slightly unsatisfying answers, but... maybe for both. It would depend on if a Riot game/book/comic/etc wanted to do something further with them, really. But it would be really fun, and would get my tick of approval. :)

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u/Tortferngatr Sep 16 '22

I'd honestly love to see Vennix show up as an LoR champ at some point, ngl.

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u/Knowka I miss my old FNC flair Sep 16 '22

They could definitely give her some good voice lines when encountering a Kalista card, she'd probably be horrified if she ever found out what happened to her

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u/clg_wrath2 Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

I got the book last week for me and my mom, who has 0 league knowledge outside of arcane, and we both loved it. I can't compliment the writer and team enough for making a story featuring so many league characters without anyone new not getting the satisfication or the "importance" of said characters.

One of my favorite things about ruination and even Ruined King is how well it ties so many regions of the league world together into one overarcing narrative.

Now there was one Mage character in Ruination that I would love a novel path for his journey in the world post ruination. Might we get any more of his story in forms of novel/story soon? It would really ryze my interest levels.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Haha, nice. My mum is currently reading it as well. :)

It was definitely one of our goals to make this accessible, approachable, and enjoyable to both non-league fans and those who are more invested in the IP, so I'm super happy to hear that worked for you and your mum!

And yes, I'd like to see us ryze to the occasion to deliver more stories about this mage. Fingers crossed.

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u/cronumic Sep 15 '22

The lack of profanity was an interesting choice for a book with such mature themes, was it to tap into the YA audience or another reason?

Are future books containing profanity off the table?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Honestly, I didn't really ever feel like it needed it. And I think it could have been a bit jarring, being that we haven't really had lots of swearing in other prose League content. I'm not sure it's off the table, though, if a story really needed it, but I'm not sure why that would be.

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u/Foucz Sep 16 '22

Kleds journal of always begin High Major Commodore of the First Legion Third Multiplication Double Admiral Artillery Vanguard Company! You will respect my journal but its mine and you will never read it.

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u/Sharjo Sep 15 '22 Wholesome

Hey there!

I don't have any specific questions about the plot or characterization; loved the story and I'm thankful to you all for your tremendous work on Ruination

My actual questions are relating to worldbuilding elements, so here goes:

- The Razorscale vastaya, do they have a tribe name in the vastayan languages?

- Is there a specific tribe name for whatever tribe Vennix hails from?

- Are there minotaurs, trolls, fish-men and other non-humans beyond vastaya in Camavor and Helia?

- Any notes on what the Vesani tribe were doing while the Ruination was going down? Ruined King revealed that they all basically got blasted like everyone else, but they didnt appear in the novel, so just wanted to see if there was anything specifically they were doing besides

Thanks for doing this AMA!

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Hi Sharjo!

My answers for these are probably not going to be hugely enlightening. Basically... for the book, there wasn't really a huge need to do worldbuilding around the stuff that wasn't going to appear in it. So, would the aquatic Vastaya (inspired by LoR card, btw) that featured have their own name? Definitely! Would Kalista or the other POV characters know that? Nope, so I didn't really need to know those answers for the book.

Likewise, a similar answer for your other questions. Did I need that for the book? Not really, so there's no need to spend the time developing that stuff up. If another product in the future needs that work, they will expand on it and develop it as needed.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Worldbuilding generally is super fun and also a super deep (but enticing!) rabbit hole. Writing the book was a big amount of work in itself, so I didn't really have the time or need to go down rabbit holes that didn't get more words on the page.

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u/Sharjo Sep 16 '22

That's fair, and tbh I sort of expected this answer given the nature of how you guys write (and more just how writing works in general). Thanks for taking the time to answer me either way!

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u/npri0r boop Sep 15 '22

What was Aurelion Sol’s snack of choice while watching the ruination unfold?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Good question. ;)

Space Dragon Chow?

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u/Beelzebub28 Sep 15 '22

Will Karthus get any lore update? He seems like such a cool character that has no ties to ruined king characters (Kalista, Hecarim, Thresh) nor any lore of his own.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Not sure! He wasn't really an option to appear in the Ruination book, being that he wasn't born for almost another 1000 years...

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u/Shacointhejungle Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

Do Demacians recruit their people into a professional army loyal to the King, or are they loyal to the noble houses who in turn swear fealty to the King? Is there conscription?

Or more broadly, how centralized is Demacia?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

These look like wonderful questions for a future AMA on Demacia/a product set there, but probably not something we'll be focusing on today.

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u/yuuneelli Sep 15 '22

are there coloured versions of the artworks that are black/white and why did you decide to go with black/white? :3

and if you, anyone from the team, could work on another novel about any character or event, what would your favorite be? (just as in what you think would be fun, not as a question what the next novel would be most likely c: )

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

The artwork is all in color. For Ruination, the publisher walked us through how the work would be presented. It's actually unusual to have artwork in a novel, so this was actually special. But we wanted to make everything in color first-(you can go from color to greyscale but not greyscale to color)-because even if in the book it's in grayscale, there may be use cases for it in marketing or for other use.

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u/LordRedStone_Nr1 Lore Sep 15 '22

are there coloured versions of the artworks that are black/white and why did you decide to go with black/white? :3

There definitely are colored versions, they're used on the website and the bookmarks that were given away. But I too want full versions somewhere.

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u/Moifaso Sep 16 '22

No question. You guys rock

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u/Jwynna Sep 16 '22

Hello guys! I'd like to ask several questions:

  1. How old is Ledros when the events of the book happened?
  2. Was Grael's job as the Warden of Thresh considered as a very lowly job? And why did the masters considered Grael unworthy to get the job position he wanted, especially Hierarch Malgruza who seemed to ignore him?

Thank you!

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

I imagined Ledros being of a similar age to Kalista, maybe a few years older.

Yeah, Greal's role with the Wardens was considered a lowly position, which massively fed into his anger and frustration. I'd say that him being posted there was partly just to get him out of sight, as he probably made people feel a little uncomfortable, such that none of the masters probably wanted to take him on as an apprentice--even if he was a good enough student to warrant it. It was probably not the best course of action, as it turns out...

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u/1to0 Sep 15 '22

After all the years with retconning the story and only experiencing "Ruination" with the league game event how would you guys sell me the story to get invested into it again? I think the league universe is really interesting but whenever I open up a short story, for an example, even before reading I already feel exhausted and mentally tired to really get into the mood of actually reading it and just end up saving it as a bookmark for later but never really go back and read it. So what are great reasons to pick up the actual book when the champs I play and like arent in there for an example.

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

We appreciate your feedback! The Ruination novel is the canon story of how the Blessed Isles fell, and there are plenty of surprises and new connections in store, even for those who are already familiar with the lore. The Ruination irrevocably changed Runeterra, leading to wars and cataclysms that shape the world our champs live in a thousand years later. Understanding the world adds dimension and context to the people who inhabit it, so this novel is well worth the read no matter which champion you play. And it's a darn good story! :D

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u/Xaeydn Sep 15 '22

is the garen book gonna get a physical release? or is it forever an ebook?

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

No current plans for a physical release at the moment.

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u/Jeon-Moon Sep 15 '22

I would like to know Soraka's role in this book, by the way I loved that you remembered her ♡

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u/AmbushIntheDark Fueled by Midlane Tears Sep 15 '22

What was it like writing Viego and Isolde's relationship? Was it hard to balance the genuine love and Viego's toxic obsession to not lean too hard into one or the other?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Yeah, it was a bit of a balancing act. He's not a straight out villain, but nor is the relationship exactly a super healthy one (for various reasons). I hope it landed in a way that worked with folks.

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u/Jolamprex Sep 15 '22

How did you get your starts in the industry?

Relatedly, how was working on this different than your previous experiences? What was the most challenging?

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22

I started my career at Blizzard Entertainment, editing novels and comics tying into World of Warcraft, StarCraft, Overwatch, and Diablo. It's a joy to translate game worlds onto the written page, delivering the deep worldbuilding and internal characterization that's only possible in a long-form prose format. I love seeing how deeply invested players become after reading a novel, and then they pop back in game to live and fight with those characters.

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22

Honestly the most challenging part of editing Ruination was the pandemic!

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

For me? I started in the tabletop industry, and my start there was firstly retail, then doing store orders on the phone, then a temp job writing magazine/web articles and stories. From there I got a job as an Assistant Game Developer, which actually involved a lot of prose writing. After several years I detoured into Art Management, then I started writing novels as a freelancer. I did that for quite a few years, while also doing various gigs like worldbuilding/story/VO etc for several games, which is how I started to work more in the digital games side of things.

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

Do you mean the gaming industry or book industry? For books, I worked on graphic design/layout for manga titles-for a company called Digital Manga Publishing (doing things like Vampire Hunter D, novel and manga, Speed Racer, etc) and I've also done work for Kodansha Comics. For gaming, I started as a UI/Graphic Designer on Facebook and mobile games. (Back when people actually played games on FB).

Truth be told-Orbit is a really great partner. Lauren, who handled the actual nuts and bolts of the design of the book-took our feedback really well, walked us through what they wanted to do and how they saw the book being. It was a different process, we did the art and icons and maps in the book, and they did more of the production and the cover design-a very unusual hybrid partnership. So it really was a partnership, and that's so exciting! Most challenging...timelines!!! Onboarding studios and artists is time consuming, we had shifting timelines, it was a bit nerve wracking to ensure we hit the timelines. :)

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u/DraconicEngineer Charmed, I'm sure Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

Hi everyone, congrats on the launch and thank you for such an amazing read!

For Ant, mega job on everything you wrote. As a lore nerd, there were plenty of points where something that I knew would be coming played out in a way that still caught me by surprise (the final stand of the Host and subsequent events mainly) and I loved every second of it. In a bit of a different direction, I also loved Vennix and Jenda'kaya so I'm wondering how much design freedom in both their appearance and roles you had? Especially with Jenda'kaya who turns out to be a VERY important figure in her organization and what that means for Runeterra as time passes in-universe.

For Will, did the team encounter any difficulties in bringing back the VAs for the audiobook or putting that together alongside the physical release? I personally LOVE that aspect of the audiobook and getting Mr. Reynolds to return to fully flesh out Kalista's story.

For Siege (or other relevant parties), was the story of Ruined King (the Riot Forge game) and the lore beats in the Shadow Isles portions of the game taken into consideration and/or developed alongside this novel? It was great to see Nunyo Necrit back. (Admittedly I would have also loved to learn more about the Vesani and their time on the Blessed Isles but I get why that's not story relevant lol)

For Michelle and Steph, what were your favorite parts of getting Ruination out into the world? I think the YouTube trailer and associated art scenes were a great primer prior to the book releasing.

Finally for all, favorite League champ?

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22

was the story of Ruined King (the Riot Forge game) and the lore beats in the Shadow Isles portions of the game taken into consideration and/or developed alongside this novel?

Absolutely! Ant and I worked closely with the folks on Forge and the Champs team to make sure the Ruination's story fit seamlessly with the work they were doing. They were still in progress as Ant was writing, so it was a team effort to make the novel align!

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u/RiotMMauk Sep 16 '22

Oh man, my favorite part of getting Ruination out was getting a novel out. I LOVE books. I love them so much, and have a passion for them because I feel like stories are a part of our cultural identity and they are a way to deepen our experiences with characters. When I found out we were working on a novel, I feel like I probably invited myself along to be honest because I really want to make books and make beautiful books :D. (But luckily they needed art outsourced, so yay!) And every time Steph had an idea I was like "How do I make art for this?!" But really the best thing has been seeing people be excited to get a novel from the League of Legends universe and dissect it, and talk about it, and draw comics and do cosplay-like that is the best thing ever.

Favorite League champ: Heimerdinger :D :D :D

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u/StephRuination Sep 16 '22

The Ruination campaign has definitely been one of the most intense ones I've ever worked on; just being able to experiment and do things that you wouldn't normally get to do in publishing (re: the trailer - you don't often see book trailers with that kind of quality!) has been exhilarating. Additionally, Riot typically doesn't work with products that have such a long shelf life, pun for sure intended. We get to keep talking about Ruination for years while most other teams will cycle through many different products/events. Being able to deep-dive into one specific product is great.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Hi, thank you for your kind words! It's a bit of a trick, trying to make a story where people already know the outcome fun and engaging, so I'm glad it seemed to work for you. I was given a huge amount of leeway, tbh. Obviously some of these calls needed to be vetted, and make sure they work for other teams etc, but there was a lot of creative freedom.

Fav champ? I've been enjoying playing Ekko and Pantheon recently. :)

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u/EpicPotatoo Sep 16 '22

Was expanding and improving Hecarim's character difficult?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

It was fun. He wasn't really very defined, so in some way that made it easier.

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u/TitleInternational47 Sep 16 '22

Hi! I have a question for all of you!
Take it only as a "wish question"
If you had to choose an character/period of time of league of legends lore, to a novel
What would be your choice?

And about the story
Are the assassins of chapter 3 using shadow magic? It looks something like that.
Approximately how old was Grael?
Is it possible that inside the vaults there was a naughty toy harlequin? :P
I'm still reading the book so for the moment those are my questions :)
Thank you for this awesome experience for all lore lovers. The ruination is an amazing story that links (and triggers) many stories in Runaterra so is amazing read about this. Congrats and I hope to see more of your works!

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

It's too hard to pick a dream champion/even/time period that I'd like to write about. There's loads!

For your spoilery questions:

  • It certainly does seem like magic related to shadows, at least in one way or other...
  • I imagined Greal to be around his early to mid-thirties, but don't think we specified that.
  • Ha! Who knows?

Glad you are enjoying the story!

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u/Gwemm Riot shat out Marauder Kalista and called me a n***** Sep 16 '22

Love the book, on my second read-through now. What really made me invested in the novel were the characters and their dynamics, and I was already super invested in Kalista (Kalista main here). I love how Hecarim was suave, charming, and politically adept when he was alive. I low-key ship Hecalista now lol

Jenda'kaya and Vennix had such a fun dynamic with Kalista. I may also ship Kalista and Vennix. That time they jumped off a fuckin' cliff... Oh, and also Grael and Ryze. Really showed how much of a scheming snake he was and I loved it.

Also loved when Kalista punched Grael in the face. That was so satisfying to read.

The artwork at the back of the book is beautiful, but Ledros is conspicuously absent. We need to see what he looks like alive! ;(

Also, in case Kalista ever gets a VGU or a legendary skin (haha), if she gets a Camavoran accent like Viego I will throw the fuck up.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Thank you for your kind words, I'm so glad you enjoyed it! I had so much fun writing the relationships between the characters. Hecarim was really enjoyable to explore (since there wasn't much to him previously), and Kalista's little side adventures with Vennix were a joy to write. Vennix wasn't someone who was even named in my outline, she just came to life and demanded to be part of the action.

And yes, Kalista punching Grael in the face just felt right, and was incredibly satisfying to write.

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u/HunterWallasus Sep 16 '22

Will this be the last bit of Viego and ruination lore we will be seeing for a bit? Very big fan of the character of Viego, even when he was just known to us as the ruined king, so it’s been awesome to see the truly enormous stream of lore we have been getting ever since the start of the 2021 preseason. From the Sentinels of light event, the ruined king game, and finally this book, is this where the lore dump ends for now?

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u/Papuchochoe Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 18 '22

My other questions are;

  1. Promotion; were you considering making a Human Kalista or Hecarim skins to come out together with King Viego? Was there any chance they were supposed to come out with the book as a free extra for purchasing it?
  2. Illustrations; was there any more planned illustrations? Especially since the trailer contains some not present in the book etc..
  3. Story; was Hecarim's horse a mare or stallion? >! was the one from the start of the book the one that merges with him?!<
  4. The Ruined King game; I'm a bit sad we didn't get any Vesani mention in the novel, since they were so important in the book, was it intentional?
  5. How long have Viego and Isolde been married? 1 year, more or less?
  6. Were Vennix and Jenda'kaya a thing? 👉👈❤️
  7. Sorry, I want to ask more questions... I know you already said you wanted to add Vlad but couldn't fit him in the narrative, but were you considering adding maybe just some mention of his letters?
  8. I don't know if it's enough Ruination novel related, but was there any chance some icons in League to celebrate its release could be added? :c
  9. what was Soraka doing, just sitting in a hole in the jungle...
  10. Was Camavor's map based on Europe by any chance?
  11. My friend joked that Kalista accidentally sponsored and made clan Ferros rich, but did her pay really contribute to the future of this family much?
  12. When getting voice actors for the audiobook version, did you feel like they all match their characters perfectly or, if you could, you'd cast someone else for (for example) Hecarim or Ryze?
  13. I asked that in more detail in a separate post but Viego really reads as someone with BPD, was it intended by any chance?
  14. Did you decide to make Hecarim and Kalista to be wed so the ending hits more and overall it creates more drama? I was quite shocked when reading about these two haha
  15. Mr. Author did you have any hate towards someone named Bartek/Bartosz in real life, considering how Elder Bartek gets compared to a toad so many times? (im joking but I'm also really curious)
  16. Did Grael touch grass at least once in the time period from becoming a Thresher to most of the book's story?

Thank you!

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u/Zyph7007 Sep 16 '22

The Viego skin was the only one they were able to get made for the book, but they reached out to ask about doing more. The skins team was only able to do the one sadly.

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u/Karsha_ Sep 16 '22

Could Kalista inherit the throne? Or was she overlooked cause of male birth rights?

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u/Zyph7007 Sep 16 '22

It seems she was capable, but Viego was next heir before her because he's the son of the previous king while she's the granddaughter. Even if she's older, Viego is next in line

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u/StephRuination Sep 16 '22

^ This is the correct answer. If Sanctity had deemed Viego unworthy, Kalista would have been next in line.

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u/BionicleIsRelevant Sep 16 '22

Can you please reveal Heca's VA in the audiobook? I loved the perfect blend of nobility, sexiness, obvious evil-guy vibe in hindsight. Not to f*cking mention how perfectly it matches the grungy, gruff, camp (in a good way) voice of our in-game horseboy!

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u/StephRuination Sep 16 '22

Hecarim is voiced by Scott McNeil, the same actor who recorded his voice lines for the game!

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u/BionicleIsRelevant Sep 16 '22

YES!! I was so hoping it would be. McNeil killed it! Thank you. The decision to bring the original VA's is a stellar choice. Y'all are a dedicated and honorable group of artists.

Love both the hardback and the audiobook. Reading both in conjunction.

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u/HandsomeTaco Sep 15 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

Hey guys, feels good to finally get the chance to read a proper League novel, even if my physical edition still hasn't arrived here in Europe.

A few questions for you guys:

  • What was the process behind writing and delving into Helia and Camavor's cultures? How much of that work was done in advance and how much of that work was done as part of the process for the book? What's it like tackling these little underdeveloped corners of the world?

  • Anything you can say about long term plans for the Books team? Especially with the current lack of Universe content and the general challenges of game design for things like Forge, I feel like novels are the ideal way to try and flesh out the world.

  • When do we get more volcano crab?

I'll have to say one of the things I loved about the book was seeing Ryze in his youth and how much he echoes his future student in Brand, I'd love to see more of his relation with Tyrus, especially after the Ruination and with the Rune Wars. I was also happy to see that there was a lot more marketing and communication around this book than previous lore products.

Thanks for all the love you guys poured into the book. Hope to see more soon.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

I comment on future thoughts about books above, but the sake of answering here, we definitely love books and want to do more. It's a matter of finding the right story and the right time before we make future commitments.

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u/LordRedStone_Nr1 Lore Sep 15 '22

Heya, thank you for this opportunity to talk about the book. I love how carefully it was crafted, with the PoV symbols in the last chapter breaking the established conventions. Most of these are lore questions for Anthony.

  • Viego is noted to be 21 in the prologue, but how old is Kalista? And also Hecarim for that matter? Their relationship isn't too bad in the beginning, and she repeatedly notes she could have had it worse, so I assume they are close to each other?
  • It's great to learn about the early cultures like Shurima, Oshra Va'Zaun and Buhru, before the Rune Wars. Most nations, including my favorite, don't even exist yet, but the development is still interesting to observe. Especially the other gods of the Buhru are intriguing: A flame-haired woman on the backs of two sharks, and an island volcano crab. Do they have names or anything else you can share?
  • Kalista bisexual maybe? Chapter 10 was spicy. But maybe I'm reading too much into that because Vennix is just an enjoyable character.
  • On that note: In the stream before the release you said that Vennix wasn't planned to have such a big role, but I really love how she turned out in the end. Are you planning to show more of her after the events of the epilogue? Or generally about the fledgling Sentinels of Light?
  • And finally: Are you planning to release the color versions of all the images? It's a bit disappointing that half of them are only available in Black and White. I know Kalista, Viego, Hecarim and Thresh are on the website, but what about the other four? (Yes, including Vennix. There may be a theme here...)

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Glad you enjoyed the book!

  1. Kalista is about three years older than Viego. I don't think we settled exactly on how old Hecarim was, but I was imagining probably 3-4 years older than Kalista.
  2. Not much to share tbh, but I'd love to see more of them.
  3. That wasn't my intent, but was definitely a fun part of the book to write.
  4. Yeah, I really loved discovering Vennix through writing the book. No current plans, but I'd definitely love to see more of her.
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u/StephRuination Sep 16 '22

Honestly, timing. The folks who make the skins at Riot are SO BUSY ALL THE TIME. When we first approached them about doing some book skins, they loved the idea of King Viego because they could realistically get it out in time for Ruination's release.

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u/Warchief_Darthy Sep 15 '22

The very end of the book mentioned how expeditions to the Shadow Isles take a year from someone's life for every day spent there. Is that an effect the place itself has or an effect from the Black Mist?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

The idea is it is more the effect of the Black Mist - walking around it in and breathing it aint particularly good for you.

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u/CaptainIano 200 years of patch notes Sep 15 '22

What's your plan on writing more books in the future for other regions? Maybe on demacia or something?

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

Definitely more books. Definitely other regions and/or events. TBD on what's next. We're sorting that out now and will update when we have some concrete answers.

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u/JohnnyElRed Sep 15 '22

Hey guys. Just a doubt. How exactly big of an empire Camavor is? They seem to hold territories in the peninsula they inhabit, but not all of them. How would they compare to, for example, modern Noxus?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Slightly undefined. In my headcanon it was probably not as big as modern day Noxus, but at the time? It was probably pretty big and dominant for that era.

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u/trippingandsipping Sep 15 '22

I heard the audio book was amazing where can i get it or listen to it?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

It's on Audible and Apple Books, I believe also other places you might normally find audio books.

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u/StephRuination Sep 16 '22

Hi! The audiobook is available through Audible, Apple, Google Play, Kobo, and Libro.fm!

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u/FujiwaranoMoko Sep 15 '22

Hey, a bit of a more personal question, but how exactly does one get into an industry where they can write canon novels for a company? Been studying to become an author, but struggling to get my foot in the door.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Hone your craft, write, write, write, and try to get your work published, wherever you can. Generally a company would want to know someone can write to high quality, to deadline, is good with taking feedback, etc etc, and that generally means a proven track record. But everyone starts somewhere, even if that can seem a little daunting to begin with.

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u/fjordssecretthirdnip Sep 15 '22

Oooohhh thank you for this! Just gonna throw a few out there…

• What are some of your favorite bits of new lore this book introduces?

• What characters were you most excited to dive into while writing?

• The ruination lore has undergone several different tellings already (for example, the sentinels of light event) how do those stories play into this one? Are they all canon, or different telling of the same story?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22
  • Hmm. Adding a spoiler here. I really enjoyed exploring Ryze's part in the story, I think that added a lot of weight to who he is, his feelings of responsibility and guilt, and helps show a part of how/why he became the world-weary figure from 'modern' times.
  • I loved discovering Vennix and Jenda'kaya, as they were not really fleshed out in my initial outline, and they kinda just came to life during the writing.
  • This book is canon. It does expand on and slightly alter a few things like bios in minor ways, but mostly just in terms of fleshing the story out. For things like the Ruined King intro (showing Viego's final moment), I kinda imagined that was how HE saw things, but not what really happened.

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u/TahmHiddleston Sep 16 '22

I really love that we brought the rune into the waters of life. I think that's really important information and context. I also love the origins of the Sentinels and how that tied into the Ruination.

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u/CelioHogane Sep 16 '22

i just really want to learn about sand trolls.

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

I have no idea what this is referencing but I too now want to learn about sand trolls.

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u/Riot_Bioluminescence Sep 16 '22

That'd be the sand trolls mentioned in one of Ezreal's field notes on the Runeterra map. He says:

HERE BE SAND-TROLLS

Did you know sand-trolls are a thing? I, for one, did not know sand-trolls were a thing. Turns out—sand-trolls, totally a thing.

-Ez

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u/danxorhs Sep 16 '22

If I loved Arcanes story, should I buy this?

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u/SiegeGary Sep 16 '22

Yes! If you love stories about relatable characters living in a world of fantastic magic, you should buy this novel.

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u/astormintodesert Sep 16 '22

I wish I could read/comment but I haven't read it yet - I've got my copy though and looking forward to it, so thanks!

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

I hope you enjoy it! :)

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u/Rune_Armour_Trimmer Sep 16 '22

Are there goblins in Runeterra? Ornn has a line mentioning goblins but they're never mentioned anywhere else (as far as I'm aware)

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u/refuse_2_wipe_my_ass Sep 16 '22

what is the name of the continent that camavor is shown on in the map included with the book?

another rioter on here, i believe it may have been reav3 (not 100% sure) once said we were previously only seeing about 1/6th of the world with just the continents of valoran/shurima/ionia. are there current plans to expand the lore of this new continent past this book and nilah (assuming kathkan is one of those “independent kingdoms” on the map)? or any other continents and societies besides the ones we’re already so familiar with?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

Currently undefined, I believe, or at least there has not been a product shipped that needed to define it. I'm sure more of Runeterra will be explored in the future, but it's hard to say exactly where, or when (or how). Not he most satisfying answer, sorry!

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u/Regular-Poet-3657 Sep 16 '22

So what happen to the rune? And is what happen to the rune a consequence of what happens if other rune get shattered? And what happen to Vladimir?

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u/Primordial_Ant Sep 16 '22

The POV characters in the book didn't get to see exactly what happened to the rune, so it wasn't something the book needed to focus on. I have my ideas, but not sure that needs to be completely defined at this point - someone else at Riot might have a better idea (or maybe I'll have a better idea), so sometimes it's nice not to commit publicly to a direction if we don't need to.

As for Vlad? I'd have liked to have him appear, but I think I'd have need considerably more pages in the book than I had to do him justice. This was Kalista's story, really, and we needed to be fairly ruthless to keep it focused.

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